Hydraulic hose and fitting Mix and Match?

Most any manufacturer of fittings can tell you what the gage depth should be to crimp their fittings on their hose with a crimper made by someone else. You can mix hose A and fitting B as long as both are the same type hose, in MOST instances. To do this you need to have manufacturers catalogs on all components you're using, mainly for use in comparing OD and ID of your hose vs the OD and ID of the hose thats specified to work with the fitting brand you have.

We've got an Imperial Eastman crimper that will handle hose up thru 2" ID and a Gates that maxes out at 1 1/4". Over the years I can safely say we've crimped about every brand of fitting onto every other brand of hose with no problems. This is based on using standard hose, usually 2 wire but some 4 wire for higher pressures, but not on the use of hose with any special jacket or hose which requires skiving for fitting installation.

I'd leave Tractor Supply's fittings alone unless they have full crimping data available for them. From what I've seen, you can buy major brand stuff as cheap as you can buy the no-name stuff TS stocks, and often cheaper, if you buy from the right sources. When we were buying hose and fittings regularly in maintaining our cranes, we'd typically pay $4 to $4.50 for a fitting with a list price of $15, regardless of whether it was a Gates, Eastman, Weatherhead, or whatever. The same sorts of quantity discounts are generally available on bulk hose too.

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hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

The_Owl

Posted 5/22/ 01:20 (#)
Subject: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Watford City, ND

I blew a hose on the old Flexicoil drill - so, off to town I run for a $90 hose.

This got me to thinking -

Anyone purchase a hose press and stock fittings? Anywhere to buy a kit of common fittings? Are they all metric or no? Worth the expense of carrying parts you may not need for years?

We have mostly JD equipment, a Quadtrac 535, sprayer, and various other equipment from the 70's and 80's.

Thoughts? Chad H

Posted 5/22/ 01:31 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

NE SD

How far are you from a Dakota Fluid Power? They have a deal where if you buy so much stock and then they give you the crimper and saw or similar to it. The fittings and hose you buy from them will be heavily discounted over what you can buy it made up anywhere else for. They handle Gates products.

Parker makes a nicer more mobile crimper that you can take to the field with you and runs on compressed air, but my understanding is that Parker crimpers are really only designed to work with their own fittings and hose. 

ahay

Posted 5/22/ 02:00 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Saronville NE

Yes bought my own couple yrs ago, stock mostly pipe thread type fittings, a few oring types for our loaders, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 hose and fitting mostly for 3/8 and 1/2 but have several for the smaller and only special fitting for the bigger hose. Buy most my fittings online and the hose, it is less then half price of what they charge in town. Has saved us many times already on weekends etc so could keep rolling. Have only had to run to town so far for a special oring type I didn't have, just keep your most common, you cant stock everything. Alberta Cowman

Posted 5/22/ 02:46 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: Yes but don't tell your neighbours.

Next to a welder our crimp is probably the best and most used item in the shop. I'm an hour away from the nearest hose shop. It's not a factor of only saving time and money it's the convienence of building a hose when you want and need. You'll replace hoses before they blow.

Ours is a used AeroquipP crimp. It was ~$. Used a air/hyd pump off bead breaker. I like the Aeroquip hose. Seems to take the weather and abrasion better than others. Set up a bolt bin for fittings. Nothing worse than knowing you have a fitting somewhere in that pail.

There are metric fittings. I find most of what I use is JIC, ORB, and pipe. Getting to be more O-ring face fittings. Shop around. I can buy aeroquip for the same $ as Chinese.

No matter how much you stock initially there will always be something you miss. Whenever I need an oddball fitting I get an extra couple. Can build anything from 1/4" 1 wire to 1-1/4" 4 wire. Only a couple 1-1/2" hoses on the place that I can't make unless I buy the $600 die. Maybe someday.

This wasn't a cheap venture. Probably have $20k of fittings and hose. Very well spent though. Don't tell the neighbours. Word gets around plenty fast. :) TurnbullFarms

Posted 5/22/ 04:39 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Southern Ontario

Bought a used hose crimper off Kijiji (eBay Craig's List), some hose and a bunch of fittings a couple years ago. There are a couple local distributors locally that stock whatever we need.

Last year it came in handy on a bunch of occasions. 2 hoses on the planter, 1 on the excavator, all new hoses on a piece of equipment we rebuilt. Neighbor  bought some hoses for a dozer that blew a hose.

 

They are expensive to buy, but once you own one, you'll wonder why you didn't buy one sooner.

Indianajones

Posted 5/22/ 05:19 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

You will get efficient and thoughtful service from zkhthydraulics.

I bought a used crimper and saw off Ebay for a good price. I bought my hose and fittings from Discount Hydraulics. The supplies is where you tie up a lot of money trying to have what you need when you need it.
I just bought the basics and add to it when I see the need for more stuff. Shipping is too high to just buy a few at a time.
I haven't used mine a lot but am glad I got it.
INDY Rod Maker

Posted 5/22/ 05:51 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Westport, IN

Westport, IN

I have one that I use in my shop press. I too buy from discount hydraulic hose fittings. I stock pipe fittings and jic. I also have o-ring to jic adapters then use jic hose fittings. I find I replace hoses proactively instead of waiting till they blow, I know we purchase much less oil now than we used too. PopC

Posted 5/22/ 06:11 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

For our shop it is a must have, we seem to make hose assemblies everyday
Get ready to spend $20,000 plus
You need 1/4 3/8 1/2 3/4 hose
Pipe, o-ring, jic, flat face fittings in all sizes
Now you can start getting Din, Metric, British, etc.
1, 1-1/4 inch hose, low pressure suction hose, air hose fittings
Whoops gotta have another cabinet with more trays
When the neighbors find you can make hose assemblies you will be in the business
Now for the LIABILITY insurance! E718

Posted 5/22/ 06:30 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Sac & Story county IA

Whoops gotta have another cabinet with more trays

Hee Heee.
My cabinet is 10 holes by 10 holes --100 spaces. Not near enough. MCatSHF

Posted 5/22/ 07:53 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Sandy Hook, MB

Sandy Hook, MB

Hello The Owl

Grain farmers could probably get by with driving to town every time a hose blows, but I can't. I feed once a day in the evening, so when a hose goes, everybody is usually closed for the day. I bought a crimper at a dealership auction about 30 years ago & buy a spool of 1/2" (the most popular on my equipment) & might only buy 100' at a time of the 1/4', 3/8", & 3/4" hose. I have some of the more common fittings, but certainly not them all. After a while you know which ones to keep in stock. I usually have about $1,500 worth of fittings in stock.

scott nelsen

Posted 5/22/ 08:00 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Leeds, North Dakota

It can get very expensive, fittings are not cheap, npt, orb, jic, flat face fittings, good hose is not cheap, crimper you could fine a used one online, how many times are you gonna use it, I understand down time, Scott. mmaddox

Posted 5/22/ 08:39 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

Have had a Gates 707 for many years, has been a great investment. Only use two wire hose. This machine will do all hoses, most will not. Can make you really popular at times. SR71

Posted 5/22/ 14:07 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

ECMN

I have a Parker Parkrimp 1 that I bought off of Ebay. I have a big supply of half, 3/8 and 1/4
hose and fittings and also have a small stock of 3/4 and 1 inch. I get my supplys right from a
Parker store about an hour away if I don't have something simple usually the local Deere dealer
has it in stock. I also keep a stock of 5/8 hose and japanese fittings for the excavator.
It is so handy to have and I use it all the time it is one of the have to have tools in the shop. KRM

Posted 5/22/ 14:57 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

NC Kansas

I bet you won't regret the cost...whatever you end up spending. Never fails, the rain cloud on the horizon will cause a hose to break at 5:01 pm on a Saturday evening.

We have our shop in a small town (no service station or dealer to get a hose made) and we share a parker set up with 2 other neighbors. We all take turns buying fittings and hose, bargain shop for supplies. None of us seem to care if we've bought our "fair share" of components as long as we can get hose made and keep the wheels turning after hours. starvation

Posted 5/22/ 15:53 (# - in reply to #)
Subject: RE: hydraulic hose and fittings - who stocks them at home?

mn

If you are looking for more details, kindly visit Two Piece Hose Fittings.

a true farmer 'round here (grain) would not need a hyd hose maker cause ya trade before it goes bad. but, the rest of us would love to have one. just have not bought one yet. nothing worse then baling hay, haul'n manure, bale'n hay sat afternoon and, '' you got to be kidding me''.